NATO member states should be more decisive when it comes to deterring Russia, Lithuania's Foreign Minister Kestutis Budrys told DW. In an exclusive interview, he warned against "naivety" and ignorance in Europe's approach to Russia.

"I'm not sure whether we changed our calculation about what works and what not" when dealing with the Kremlin, he told Alexandra von Nahmen, Director of DW's Programs for Russia, Ukraine and Eastern Europe.

He said that Russia made its intentions clear shortly before its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

"They want NATO to be destroyed and dismantled. They want Americans out with all their capabilities, including nuclear capabilities, and they are working on this specific goal. That's not all about Ukraine," Budrys said.